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#1 2009-06-13 22:44:07

Dan
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Suggestions

I have some suggestions that you should add some features from the normal Sonic games.
Allow a second player to control another character. Let Tails pick up another character and carry them around. Knuckles should be able to break walls just by walking into them (like a Spin Dash).

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#2 2009-06-14 13:22:23

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Re: Suggestions

Welcome, Dan! Thank you for your suggestions. smile

Allow a second player to control another character.

Could you please explain in details? I don't see this working properly on cooperative play, since we control 3 characters at the same time.

Knuckles should be able to break walls just by walking into them (like a Spin Dash).

It would be so strange. sad

Let Tails pick up another character and carry them around.

Pretty cool. Could you please explain in details? If Tails touches another character when flying, he would carry that character?

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#3 2009-06-14 17:48:06

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Re: Suggestions

Alexandre wrote:

Knuckles should be able to break walls just by walking into them (like a Spin Dash).

It would be so strange. sad

He can do that in Sonic (3) & Knuckles. It is sometime used to break walls that are higher than the ground.
Sonic_3_&_Knuckles_GEN_ScreenShot3.jpg

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#4 2009-06-14 19:23:30

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Re: Suggestions

In Sonic 2 3 & Knuckles if you pressed buttons on the second control you would control Tails something like that. In 3 & Knuckles Tails could pick up Sonic I think you had to touch Sonic's head while flying. You could break them with Knuckles in the game he could break walls Sonic & Tails could not.

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#5 2009-06-14 20:13:31

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Re: Suggestions

But Tails was following Sonic so he could come back quickly if he went out of screen or if the 2nd player left. (And 2nd player's Tails was invincible.)
How would you do that with OpenSonic gameplay ? (As the screen is small, you go out very easily.)

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#6 2009-06-15 00:41:25

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Re: Suggestions

About the Knuckles thing, I still think that using the spindash move is so much cooler. We could implement that (he would break every breakable wall just by touching it), but I think it would be a little boring to play:

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That wall wouldn't be an obstacle at all. Let's break it with a spin dash:

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Well, it's just my opinion smile

I think you may have had to run at the walls to break them with Knuckles in the game he could break walls Sonic & Tails could not.

It's been a long time since I don't play Sonic 3&K, but do you remember if that happens for every breakable wall?

But Tails was following Sonic so he could come back quickly if he went out of screen or if the 2nd player left. (And 2nd player's Tails was invincible.)
How would you do that with OpenSonic gameplay ? (As the screen is small, you go out very easily.)

You wouldn't. I don't see how this idea could possibly work with cooperative play.

In 3 & Knuckles Tails could pick up Sonic I think you had to touch Sonic's head while flying

That's so cool! big_smile It would improve the cooperative experience even more! You could use Tails to bring Sonic or Knuckles to places where they couldn't reach by themselves (without using any teleporter). smile

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#7 2009-06-15 04:08:32

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Re: Suggestions

Well if it were say Hydrocity or Ice Cap with breakable walls, it'd be much more tedious to spindash through every wall that comes within pressure. It's one of the reasons why I loved playing Knuckles through Sonic3k.

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#8 2009-06-15 05:19:52

Dan
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Re: Suggestions

Alexandre wrote:

It's been a long time since I don't play Sonic 3&K, but do you remember if that happens for every breakable wall?

As far as I know yes. Perhaps you could have Knuckles punch the walls? I know he has a punching animation. You could have to hold up and press jump or something. BTW could you give Sonic a special ability? It seems like there is no reason to use him. Maybe leaping off walls? Double Jump? About multiplayer though it may be hard to implant what about online play?

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#9 2009-06-15 09:26:14

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Re: Suggestions

Here is a wall in Sonic 3 that only Knuckles can break :
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Dan wrote:

BTW could you give Sonic a special ability? It seems like there is no reason to use him. Maybe leaping off walls? Double Jump?

He has got some cool abilities in Sonic 3 (depending on the shield used), if you press the jump key again while jumping :
No shield :
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(a kind of extended hit area)

Water shield :
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(can bounce on the ground)

Electric shield :
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(double jump)

Fire shield :
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(air dash)

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#10 2009-06-15 17:20:20

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Re: Suggestions

Perhaps you could have Knuckles punch the walls? I know he has a punching animation. You could have to hold up and press jump or something

If Knuckles is able to break the walls just by touching them, a punch move would be useless.

BTW could you give Sonic a special ability?

He has got some cool abilities in Sonic 3 (depending on the shield used), if you press the jump key again while jumping

The idea of new shields was added to the TODO List months ago. See here: http://opensnc.sourceforge.net/forum/vi … .php?id=34 smile

About multiplayer though it may be hard to implant what about online play?

That's a possibility, but it's definitely far from being a priority at this time. Right now we're much more concerned about getting original resources, improving what we already have, adding basic game features, etc. Online play is something for the next years.

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#11 2009-06-15 17:26:43

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Re: Suggestions

Maybe Knuckles could break walls while gliding like if a wall is to high for a spin dash.

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#12 2009-06-15 18:26:33

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Re: Suggestions

Alexandre wrote:

BTW could you give Sonic a special ability?

He has got some cool abilities in Sonic 3 (depending on the shield used), if you press the jump key again while jumping

The idea of new shields was added to the TODO List months ago. See here: http://opensnc.sourceforge.net/forum/vi … .php?id=34 smile

I wasn't talking about the shields but about the special abilities Sonic (not Tails or Knuckles) has when using them.

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#13 2009-07-09 03:51:11

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Re: Suggestions

The TODO List has just been updated. smile
http://opensnc.sourceforge.net/forum/vi … d=116#p116

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#14 2009-07-12 18:41:20

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Re: Suggestions

Alexandre wrote:

The TODO List has just been updated. smile
http://opensnc.sourceforge.net/forum/vi … d=116#p116

Now you can delete the "New image filter: hq2x" because the site is down > and testing with emulators in old computers this filter slow down the system...

And i like this ".ogg music support (completed - v0.1.2)" thankyou!

A thing to do levels easy == you or something else can make a "default template" of bricks and a "palette" of default colors,  to start making a lot of levels?

(i know how make custom level bricks but to make the game levels a bit faster is better -i think- have a template for the correct size and style-colors of the levels in the main-game)

this is an example - the default color (of course, this are basic colors, is only an idea, i use this to make "goal" and have a lot of cool colours)
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an example of than different levels can be, see the size of floor bricks in this 3 levels, also see the colors:
http://opensnc.sourceforge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=55
http://opensnc.sourceforge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=45
http://opensnc.sourceforge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=49

the first have 5 or 6 colors in each brick
the second a lot more in each brick
the third same the second

the size of the first is "normal" the ok standard
the second is some "normal" with some parts very "small"
the third is "big" and realy is big / compare size with characters

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#15 2009-07-15 22:12:37

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Re: Suggestions

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Sorry Lainz, but I don't really enjoy your "GOAL" sign. The Level Templates idea is great, though. smile

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#16 2009-07-20 01:41:46

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Re: Suggestions

Done. smile

Knuckles can break walls just by touching them (spindash isn't needed anymore) (completed - v0.1.2)

Check out the TODO List: http://opensnc.sourceforge.net/forum/vi … .php?id=34

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#17 2009-11-23 09:27:32

Bertram
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Re: Suggestions

Hi,

Lainz wrote:

Now you can delete the "New image filter: hq2x" because the site is down > and testing with emulators in old computers this filter slow down the system...

-> I think he's right.

Regards. smile

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#18 2010-02-11 19:07:30

redmer
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Re: Suggestions

its not very long and you cant save:mad: and hou ( im dutch) can yoe get sonic or nuckels
wihf tails

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#19 2010-02-13 17:03:59

Ness and Sonic
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Re: Suggestions

I would recommend giving each character a separate sprite sheet. If your going to have teams consisting of a fast character, a flying character, and a powerful character, why not create a spritesheet for each one and place them in a separate folder and add a "Select Your Teammates" screen. Sonic and Shadow would be in the fast folder. Tails and Rouge would be in the flying folder. Knuckles and E-123 (Omega) would be in the powerful folder. I imagine this would add more variety to the game by letting players mix and match their teams.

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#20 2010-04-05 13:36:08

Geoffery
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Re: Suggestions

One problem with Miles is that when he flies, his attack mode is in the tail (on the orgiinal Sonic 2 & 3). Why can't I attack - Lets say the flying robots - while flying with Miles?

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#21 2010-04-06 08:49:38

darkcity
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Re: Suggestions

in sonic cd plus plus you can 'drop' sonic into a spin if you press down - you could have similar mechanic for Miles.

http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_CD_Plus_Plus


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