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#1 2011-09-15 22:54:21

Race the Hedgehog
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[Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

Second cutscene

Hello everyone, Alexandre and I are starting to create the second cutscene of the game.

The cutscene all will be made with sprites.
Here is the storyboard:

surgestoryboard1.PNG
Wednesday14thofSeptember2011101516PM.png

We'll post the progress here.
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#2 2011-09-15 23:09:58

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

Just as a side note, Race is the artist and the task leader of this cutscene. I am the scripting guy, and I'll help him make his artistic vision become true. His storyboard, which has also been uploaded to the wiki ( http://opensnc.sourceforge.net/wiki/ind … e_Paradise ), is based on the Game Story.

We're making this public so that hopefully the community can learn from this, and we can learn from the community as well.

This cutscene will appear before Sunshine Paradise Act 1.

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#3 2011-09-15 23:22:38

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

Will this be coded to play out in-game or drawn.

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#4 2011-09-15 23:26:16

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

SilverstepP wrote:

Will this be coded to play out in-game or drawn.

According to the Game Story ( http://opensnc.sourceforge.net/wiki/ind … Game_Story ), act 1 starts after the cutscene.

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#5 2011-09-15 23:28:14

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

Alexandre wrote:
SilverstepP wrote:

Will this be coded to play out in-game or drawn.

According to the Game Story ( http://opensnc.sourceforge.net/wiki/ind … Game_Story ), act 1 starts after the cutscene.

I mean is it a slideshow or will it play out in-level, right at the start and before the level actually begins.

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#6 2011-09-15 23:51:14

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

Before act 1 starts, not in-level.

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#7 2011-09-15 23:59:03

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

I finished the first Surge sprite big_smile

surgerelax.PNG

The first picture is the main, the other two are for him to speak.

Example:

24y6bo7.gif

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#8 2011-09-16 00:18:14

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

Can we get the .SPR of these sprites as well?

My two cents: maybe it would be better if this got integrated into Surge's main .PNG, but whether we're doing this or not is your choice. smile

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#9 2011-09-16 00:29:26

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

This is just a demonstration, I'll put them later in Surge's main PNG smile
What do you think of the sprite?


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#10 2011-09-16 00:34:07

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

I think it's awesome. wink

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#11 2011-09-16 01:04:40

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

Thanks! big_smile
This Surge are from second frame,when he tells Neon "Do you think That we-":

surgerelax2.PNG
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#12 2011-09-16 01:42:47

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

Very well done. Just a question, though. Here's the place where the cutscene is held, the way it is now (what do you think? it's in dropbox):

Friday16thofSeptember2011034043AM.png

Unlike the storyboard, the grass doesn't have much sense of depth. How are we going to make it convincing, knowing that Surge will look to Neon?

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#13 2011-09-16 01:58:54

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

So? :

Friday16thofSeptember2011035844AM.png

I just increased the grass.


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#14 2011-09-16 02:09:39

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

ok. here:

Friday16thofSeptember2011040923AM.png

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#15 2011-09-16 23:38:43

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

Neon:

Frame 1
neonframe2.PNG
Frame 2
neonframe1.PNG
Frame 3
neonframe3.PNG


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#16 2011-09-17 02:40:19

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

Very nice. smile By the way, are we going to have the balloons you showed earlier for the dialogs? Or will it be something else? Because if we are sticking to the balloons, they should be big enough to accommodate all the text, plus about 50% of it, as the game has translations.

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#17 2011-09-17 03:00:54

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

Yes, balloons.

Big balloons like this:

assist08_070926b-l.jpg

EDIT:

How would be in the game:

surgehoax.PNG

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#18 2011-09-17 06:54:12

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

One question: is it possible to put a colored outline for the text? "Buddy" in the last pic Race posted is slightly harder to read than the rest of the sentence.


Your teacher asks you. What to answer? Say this:
"I thought the teacher is supposed to know."

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#19 2011-09-17 16:24:42

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

SurgeChris wrote:

One question: is it possible to put a colored outline for the text? "Buddy" in the last pic Race posted is slightly harder to read than the rest of the sentence.

I agree, it's hard to read. We could put a black-colored text below (and slightly to the right of) the text, like it's done in SD or in the level opening screen, but it still would be hard to read because we would have a white text on top of a black text, on top of a transparent balloon which is subject to different backgrounds.

One choice is: we could take off the transparent part of the balloon, but could be less cute (I don't know). Or we could use slighly different styles of balloons that don't have this problem, like

Megaman%207%20snes.jpg or 0021.png
or even some of them combined with other things.

But this is up to Race. What do you think we can do?

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#20 2011-09-17 16:34:56

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

There's no point in it being transparent. The alpha would just eat CPU, imo. I choose solid.

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#21 2011-09-17 18:30:40

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

Ok... Transparent balloons was a bad idea. hmm
What do you think of that balloon?:

surgehoax2.PNG


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#22 2011-09-17 19:37:20

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

That is certainly better smile, though it needs better contrast in my opinion.

It is still hard to read, specially to people who have myopia (like me). You have a small white text in front of a silver background, which doesn't have good contrast. The black text behind the white one helps, but not much in this case.

Would it be possible to improve the contrast a bit?

Cave Story has similar dialogs compared to what you're proposing, but please notice how the reading is more pleasant due to the contrast:

CAVESTORY-07.jpg

This other game has very polished balloons, but notice how the white text in front of the dark background makes a good contrast:

Undersid5a.png

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#23 2011-09-17 19:58:36

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

Can't we just modify the dialogue boxes we, yknow, already have?

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#24 2011-09-17 20:11:24

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

SilverstepP wrote:

Can't we just modify the dialogue boxes we, yknow, already have?

So?:

hoax3.PNG


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#25 2011-09-17 20:17:05

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Re: [Subproject] Cutscene 2-Surge and Neon

Race the Hedgehog wrote:
SilverstepP wrote:

Can't we just modify the dialogue boxes we, yknow, already have?

So?:

hoax3.PNG

I like it, personally.

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